‘Lots Of Theories’ About Voter Fraud ‘But No Evidence’

Rudy Giuliani apparently didn’t let a little thing like “facts” stop him from trying to get one Arizona Republican official to replace Joe Biden’s electors with a group that supported then-President Donald Trump.

In fact, Trump’s personal lawyer told Arizona House Speaker Rusty Bowers that, although he had “lots of theories” as to why Trump really won the 2020 presidential election, he just didn’t “have the evidence.”

Bowers told the committee that he recalled Giuliani telling him, ″’We’ve got lots of theories, we just don’t have the evidence.’”


“I think that Shaye and her mother put the human toll in front of the American people,” said McCaskill. “The human toll of Donald Trump’s efforts to overturn the will of the American people. To me, it was the most compelling. Now, Rusty Bowers was very powerful. And by the way, did you notice that Trump was so freaked out about Rusty Bowers and what he was going to testify, that he felt the need to lie about him immediately before the hearing. Which I thought was a real tell that Trump knows these hearings are powerful in the presentation of evidence.”

“I think that Shaye and her mother will go down in history,” McCaskill continued. “She got the profile in courage award this year from the Kennedy Institute. She deserved it. I think they will go down in history as examples of the abuse of power and the painful result of that in people’s lives that are merely doing the right thing.”


Trump and his henchmen may very well have known their actions would incite an insurrection — from Biden voters

Over the many months of revelations about Donald Trump’s attempted coup, one lingering question has rarely been asked: What would have come next if Vice President Mike Pence had done what they asked?

This third hearing discussed the campaign to pressure Pence, then the vice president, into overturning the election — and what a campaign it was. The main player in this scheme was Republican lawyer John Eastman, who appears to have been a Trump true believer (as well as a highly credentialed, conservative, constitutional scholar) who offered his services to serve Trump’s pre-fabricated conspiracy theory that the election had been stolen. Trump was apparently pleased with his devotion to the Big Lie and Eastman quickly became the primary January 6th coup plotter.

It is pretty clear that Eastman knew there was a good chance for serious bloodshed if Pence overturned the election.


The hearings showed that Eastman was relentless, throwing out one argument after another to get Pence to go along with the program. His and Trump’s entreaties were met with furious pushback from the White House counsel’s office and Pence’s own lawyers who argued that it was illegal, unconstitutional and wrong over and over again. Eastman was so obsessive about his crusade to overturn the election, however, that even after the insurrection on Jan. 6th he came back to one of the White House lawyers who said what is no doubt going to be one of the most famous quotes of this scandal: “I’m going to give you the best free legal advice you’re ever getting in your life. Get a great f-ing criminal defense lawyer. You’re going to need it.” A few days later Eastman emailed Trump’s other attorney Rudy Giuliani asking to be on the “pardon list.”